The Democrat party’s favorite tactic is demagoguery. The Clintons raised it to a high art. A raw form of it is mudslinging. Obama has messed things up so badly that he cannot stand on his record, so all he has left is the “they’re even worse than I am” ploy. Throwing mudballs takes that shine right off your enemies (yes, Obama has called us enemies, not opponents).
His $859 billion economic stimulus program was a miserable failure, solid majorities of the public now demand repeal of Obamacare, unemployment remains above 9 percent, his Gallup approval rating is in the tank at 39 percent, and many economists say there's a one-in-three chance of a double-dip recession. In other words, Obama can't run on his own record, so he believes he has to run down everybody else's record to have a chance at a second term. (Washington Examiner)Which would you rather have? A Rick Perry Texas McJob, or an Obamanomics No Job? Crappy job beats no job every time in my book. BTW, go here for a fact-based analysis of the Texas job machine that blows the libtard propaganda out of the water.
We had more leftwing propaganda spillage here yesterday, so here are a few more links that shine the light of truth and expose the liberal lies. A favorite trick to to pick a little downturn in an overall upward trending line and say , "SEE! They Lost Jobs There!" It's entertaining to watch the gyrations lefties go through to "prove" their point. Fact is, blue states are bleeding out people, and most are choosing to move to Texas, where the jobs are. The people have voted, with their feet.
Paul Krugman is Troll, and He's Wrong
Don't Mess with the Texas Economy
On a related note, Chuck DeVore has written a tight defense of Perry’s Trans-Texas Corridor project
I bring this up not so much to defend Governor Perry, but because DeVore raised some interesting privatization issues as well as shedding light on how changes outside of the US will shift a lot of port traffic from California to Texas.
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I have a feeling that 2012 is going to be a particularly acerbic year.
Thanks for a great retort to many of my concerns. Compared to the alternative, Perry wins out. I am still not convinced about his immigration policies. NAFTA is a one way ticket IMO. Instead of importing from China, it will be Mexico. A two mile wide strip of land taken by eminent domain right up through our heartland will destory how many farms? Then we don't even own it. In the end, I will take it considering the alternatives.
My best friend of over 40 years lives in Texas. Mostly, she has good things to say about Perry.
Anyway, next week, I'm going to have a featured-question post about whom commenters support for the GOP nominee for the 2012 election.
Ultimately, all of us who oppose Obama have to realize that there is no perfect candidate. In fact, there is NEVER a perfect candidate.
The fact remains that the issue of greatest concern now has to be that of our ailing economy and who can effectively lead so as to facilitate the turning around of this economic disaster. I see certain right-side bloggers having fits about Perry; but it may well be that he is the most electable candidate for the GOP in 2012.
Counting from the beginning of the recession (December 2007) the Texas public sector has grown 3.8%, or a little under 70,000 employees. This is faster than normal employment, but it's not off the charts.
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I enjoyed that quote from one of your links. Spin, spin, spin.
I also enjoyed the attempt to prove that Texas is a "job creation" machine from purely the scalar job number. If it were this magnificent engine then the unemployment rate shouldn't be in the middle of the pack, no?
The big factor is the housing costs. Texas has ample land to build and therefore keep costs down.
Massachusetts costs are high because we don't have the building space and demand is still high. Ergo high costs.
I don't hear Perry talking about what policies generated this "miracle". Krugman points t high population, the oil spike and public sector jobs. Doesn't seem that Perry had much to do with it and if you study Texas structure the governor is weak. Policy is in the legislature, Perry, like Chucklenuts before him does little.
He should start talking about specifics. Otherwise he'll be left with the fringe who care whether or not Texas teaches creation science.
What were his policies? High illegal immigration? AOW's a big fan of that.
Ducky: Your flaccid response just shows how weak the liberal propaganda you've swallowed is.
The Texas population is exploding, and the state's job creation is at least keeping up with that.
To put things in perspective, look around at other states. Of course factors like available land come into play, and Perry may have had nothing to do with the jobs (thats the better argument, imho), but it is ridiculous pedantry to try to discount the Texas job numbers.
You and Jersey and the other msnbc disciples are discrediting yourselves.
Hey, Ducky! Housing costs are far cheaper in Detroit. You can buy up whole blocks there for ten or fifteen dollars.
Now what does that prove?
The high cost of housing in Massachusetts has little to do with the scarcity of land, but much more to do with the long-held aura of prestige and the status-seekers who worship it.
Boston is a beautiful city -- or at least it was the last time I saw it more than twenty years ago -- but like my home town, New York City, living there exacts too high a price. It just isn't worth the sacrifice.
However, having been raised in a great metropolitan area with all the attendant cultural advantages gives one a a wonderful start in life -- and a treasure house filled with great memories that continue to enrich one's inner life forever. I'm grateful for my background, and wouldn't have missed a moment of it.
Everyone ought to have the experience for a few years at least.
Would I live in New York or Boston or Philadelphia, or Washington, DC, or San Francisco today?
Of course, but only if I had a bare minimum of ten million dollars on ice.
I happen to own a 2700-square-foot house splendidly appointed and beautifully landscaped. For the money it costs me to own and operate the place, I might be able to afford a studio apartment on an airshaft in a not-so-great neighborhood in my home town.
No thanks! Compromise in my case has been agreeable, but then I don't exactly live in Cadiz, Ohio or Gopher Prairie, Minnesota either.
Unfortunately, the middle class has long ago been driven out of America's great cities. Without the Bourgeoisie to provide balance and maintain standards you invariably get slumification presided over by the Super Rich hypocrites who've bled the country dry to their own advantage by pretending to be concerned about The Plight of the Poor -- and racism.
Nothing is more irksome than rich liberals with a God Complex who have nothing better to do than try to run other people's lives by remote control from the shelter of their penthouses and seaside mansions in places like South Hampton and Martha's Vineyard.
But I don't enjoy being ruled by hicks, yahoos and glorified rednecks either. Washington, DC is chock full of them, and it's much too bad.
We are in no way united anymore. We've become a repository for disparate splinter factions beset with alcoholism, drug-abuse, rampant irresponsible sex and myriad other social problems united only by TeeVee.
What's your version of how we got where we are? I'm sure you'll blame greedy capitalists, but it goes deeper than that.
~ FreeThinke
Gosh, I just don't like Perry. I do not like the fact that he supports illegal immigrants coming here, not to mention he supports a few of Al Gore's standpoints, and has an association with CAIR.
I'll stick with Cain and Bachmann.
Just a point about availability of land for building in Texas,,
Texas is ranch country, massive ranches that would dwarf most suburban cities and townships.
Texas is also Oil field country and what applies to the ranches applies to them.
Also, both the ranches and Oil fields are privately owned so my point would be this leaves little land availability for "building space".
Sure they have a tad more land for expansion than say Massachusetts but considering what drives their economy,,not much more.
What some enterprising researcher should do to measure states is develop the Maury Index.
Index the number of appearances to population. I'm betting Texas is way up there.
Perry could brag about his high Maury Index and most of the population would think it was a plus.
Why was Perry whining like a stinking little girl that the Feds weren't giving him enough flood aid?
Obama doubling down = double dip. Count on it!
Come September we will know who all the players are. Then I'll get serious about deciding which one will make the best President.
Jobs are becoming a zero sum game in America anyway.
And Texas has poached the jobs from other states by pursuing policies that involve lax regulation, low wages, and worker penury, all while maintaining a workforce of minimal skills and education, it's all smoke and mirrors. It also explains their large budget deficit.
If other states join the race to the bottom, Texas is SoL.
And, it should be noted, even with the job growth, Texas unemployment is still higher than many states, because the population is growing faster than the rest of the country, including retirees who just love the fact that their federal subsidies (SS and Medicare) allow them to hire servants on the cheap (with no benefits, paid in cash to avoid SS contributions) because the R model of full employment is the antebellum South.
So once again, can you give me your alternative description of the "Texas miracle". And why doesn't anyone else seem interested. I've presented my theory, what's yours?
Ducky, you're just too fuckin' NEGATIVE.
Why be such a wet blanket?
I've accused you of practicing Critical Theory which is what leftists do by their very nature without any special instructions from the Frankfurt School -- and I'm right.
Your worldview is just too God-damned DREARY. You are reminiscent of the fundamentalists you profess to despise who hold the position that anyone who doesn't think just their way is hellbound.
I see very clearly that adamantly held doctrinaire views of any kind suck the life out of conversation and foment anger. Adamant absolutism -- especially of the determinedly negative variety -- makes life a hell on earth for those who participate.
Notice how the thread just dies when you post this crapola. It isn't because you're correct, it's because no one wants to play your depressing games.
For you the glass is always half-empty -- and leaking from a crack at the bottom to boot. It's a twisted, demented view of reality that fosters mental illness -- a paralysis of the spirit.
I don't buy it, but I admit it befouls the air -- like a series hot wet farts.
~ FreeThinke
" ... his Gallup approval rating is in the tank at 39 percent ..."
I wonder why it's even that high?
I'll be if we factored out the Colored Vote his approval rating would be closer to ten or fifteen percent -- just as the TRUE unemployment rate is closer to sixteen percent nationwide when you include all those who have stopped even trying to find a job.
Our biggest problem as nation seems to be the absence of someone we can fully like and trust to lead us out of the wilderness. Obama ain't it, but none of the Republican hopefuls seems to fill the bill either.
Have we become so disenchanted and cynical that we can no longer believe in anything but a yawning chasm of utter despair?
~ FreeThinke
If you enjoy dissing Obama, here's a lot of ammunition:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/08/the_anti-american_president.html
'Obviously something is rotten on Pennsylvania Avenue; no intelligent American president would do the things Obama has done. There has been talk of his inexperience, incompetence, or just plain stupidity to explain his Bizarro-administration. However, Obama is not incompetent; he is an intelligent anti-American president. Obama is not a failure at his job -- his job is the failure of our country.
'Liberty-minded folk have several reasons why we assume another person is incompetent rather than malicious. One reason is our belief that a person is "innocent until proven guilty"; another is the natural presumption others are similar to ourselves. Unfortunately, these ideas have been coupled with a pair of dangerously pragmatic moral equivalencies foisted upon us all: "Who am I to judge?" and "They couldn't possibly mean that." As long as there is any possibility that Obama is just in over his head and doesn't mean what he says and does, many will excuse him on those grounds. ...'
And it goes on from there -- providing a withering list of damning evidence Lucianne Goldberg advises us to Copy and Save for future reference in the coming struggle to unseat The Antichrist.
~ FreeThinke
Ducky: Your "theories" are regurgitated leftist crapola.
It is what it is. People flock to Hick states like Texas, not enlightened Massatoosits.
So what's the alternative? Give all our money to big daddy government? They've been such wise stewards...
Krugman. Fat, ugly and intentionally stupid does get you the nobel cracker jack prize, I reckon.
SilverFiddle,
The socialist mindset is based on the assumption that life is a desperate struggle against insuperable odds doomed to end in failure. To the leftist we are all victims of anything and everything that appears to be stronger or superior.
These people believe we're all big babies in need of constant "parenting" by some all-knowing, all-wise, god-like figure or "committee" placed high above us to referee the Desperation Derby to make sure -- in the interests of "fairness" -- that no one can ever get ahead of the game far enough to win. Winning is regarded as evil -- the triumph of selfishness, "insensitivity" and the desire to "exploit" others.
Leftists despise success, seem incapable of experiencing fulfillment, despise happiness, despise superior achievement, and all evidence of "inequality" -- such as the genius of a Praxiteles, a Rembrandt, a Bach, a Michelangelo, a Monet, a Thomas Paine or a Thomas Jefferson, or the Christian Gospels is to be subject to a campaign of ruthless, relentless derogation.
I once took a course in "ethnomusicology" with a typical bearded Marxist professor in graduate school. He was forever praising the uncouth, primitive sounds made by African tribes and Asian cultures for their "honesty" and "originality" while constantly reminding us that Western Music -- which happens to be brilliant, complex, incredibly varied, sophisticated and advanced beyond compare -- was "the Product of Privilege." He always said this with a sneer as though the despicable taint of "privilege" was enough to disqualify anything from being worthy of respect and admiration.
Like every leftist I've ever known, he was filled with a loathing for the culture from which he sprang. Whether this stems from a misplaced sense of guilt at being so markedly superior as to make others feel bad about themselves by comparison, or from a sick, genuinely perverse nature -- or from stupidity -- I've ever been able to comprehend.
Leftists, I figured out early on -- like 45 years ago -- are motivated more by hatred and the desire to destroy than by any love of humanity or worthy achievement. They are Destructionists not Builders -- the dark side of the coin of humanity, if you will.
Of course there's plenty of evidence to "prove" that Western Civilization has been grounded in superstition, founded and developed with barbaric aggression and atrocious exploitation of weaker peoples, and all the rest of it, but there is a much larger bright side the Left steadfastly refuses to acknowledge.
As our brusque, gruff, tart-tongued-but-scrupulously-honest friend Michael Savage so often says, "Liberalism is a mental disorder."
If it's not, then all the rest of us must be categorically insane, and I refuse to believe that.
~ FreeThinke
Hey listen, 98JZUSMC, I despise Paul Krugman, but one hing he's not is fat -- nor is he ugly and stupid. He's just PERVERSE -- something all Marxian "thinkers" have in common. One can be smart, good-looking, tall, charismatic and demonically clever and still be wrong -- and vice versa.
As Mae West once said of Goodness, Looks ain't got nuttin' to do with it, Dearie.
~ FreeThinke
"In Houston, the median household income is 39 percent of the cost of a typical house. In Brooklyn, the median household income is 8 percent of the cost of the median home, and in Boston it’s only 14 percent."
Says it all doesn't it?
"It also explains their large budget deficit."
There budget deficit comes from the following factors.
The last 8 years education cost have gone up from 20% of the budget to 25%
Healthcare cost to the state has gone from 28% of the budget to 37%
And finally pensions went from 11% to 13%
We Are the enemy to the democrats. And they are our enemy. We are so diametrically opposed to the concept of life in America, they are the enemy.
Finntann,
You always have an impressive array of specific figures on hand to illustrate your points. I wish you'd tell us where you get them. I know darn well you don't make 'em up off the top of your head.
Would you please share your sources with us?
Thanks,
FreeThinke
That was from the article SF linked in his post:
Paul Krugman is Troll, and He's Wrong.
Cheers!
Thank you, Finntann.
I love this simple, clean direct formula for success in governance from the other article:
"Don't spend all the money, keep taxes low, have a fair and predictable regulatory climate, keep frivolous lawsuits to a minimum, and fund an accountable education system so that you have a skilled work force available. Then get the hell out of the way and let the private sector do what the private sector does best."
If Perry has really been able to implement that formula, he's a much better man than I would have guessed. However, funding an accountable educational system staffed with skilled teachers and administrators presumably dedicated to delivering quality instruction is probably more pipe dream than reality, unless Perry has been able to do away with the teachers union and tenure statewide.
~ FreeThinke
The Krugman is a Troll article gives the crux of the argument in these few words:
New York and Boston have a significantly higher cost of living than does Houston, or the rest of Texas. ... $50,000 a year in Houston is a very different thing from $50,000 a year in Boston or Brooklyn.
Yup! The number of dollars you take in is nowhere near as significant as the cost of living where you happen to work.
I illustrated that, myself, in an earlier post when I mentioned the cost of owning a 2,700-square-foot house here would only buy me a studio apartment on an airshaft in New York City.
As they say, "Everything is relative." Krugman and all the other leftist creeps use false standards to support their arguments.
And by the way, what in Heaven's name is a "Middle-Class Mexican?" If there are any, they must be the ones who stay in their own country. We are flooded with the desperately poor here who can't make a decent living in Mexico.
I loved the term "INTELLECTUAL MALPRACTICE." Yes, that is exactly the technique agenda-driven partisans employ. They fudge their statistics shamelessly.
Bastards!
~ FreeThinke
PS: I'd love to see you, Finntann, and SilverFiddle take on William Rivers Pitt of Truthout one day soon. He's an agreeable-looking, mild-mannered fellow who serves Satan brilliantly -- even better than Michael Moore. - FT
He was forever praising the uncouth, primitive sounds made by African tribes and Asian cultures for their "honesty" and "originality" while constantly reminding us that Western Music --
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Man, you don't gt out much. Try the Super Rail Band or Fela Kuti (preference to the Egypt 80 band).
Not that Baroque Europe isn't advanced but your view is severely limited.
Art deco is the height of 20th century art. Buy a freaking vowel once in a while. You've missed a lot and if you accept the existentialists theory of art being transformative (or at least having that goal) it might explain why you have such tunnel vision.
PART ONE:
ODE
Intimations of Immortality
(from Recollections of Early Childhood)
THERE was a time when meadow, grove, and stream,
The earth, and every common sight,
To me did seem
Apparell'd in celestial light,
The glory and the freshness of a dream.
It is not now as it hath been of yore;—
Turn wheresoe'er I may,
By night or day,
The things which I have seen I now can see no more.
The rainbow comes and goes,
And lovely is the rose;
The moon doth with delight
Look round her when the heavens are bare;
Waters on a starry night
Are beautiful and fair;
The sunshine is a glorious birth;
But yet I know, where'er I go,
That there hath pass'd away a glory from the earth.
Now, while the birds thus sing a joyous song,
And while the young lambs bound
As to the tabor's sound,
To me alone there came a thought of grief:
A timely utterance gave that thought relief,
And I again am strong:
The cataracts blow their trumpets from the steep;
No more shall grief of mine the season wrong;
I hear the echoes through the mountains throng,
The winds come to me from the fields of sleep,
And all the earth is gay;
Land and sea
Give themselves up to jollity,
And with the heart of May
Doth every beast keep holiday;—
Thou Child of Joy,
Shout round me, let me hear thy shouts, thou happy
Shepherd-boy!
Ye blessèd creatures, I have heard the call
Ye to each other make; I see
The heavens laugh with you in your jubilee;
My heart is at your festival,
My head hath its coronal,
The fulness of your bliss, I feel—I feel it all.
O evil day! if I were sullen
While Earth herself is adorning,
This sweet May-morning,
And the children are culling
On every side,
In a thousand valleys far and wide,
Fresh flowers; while the sun shines warm,
And the babe leaps up on his mother's arm:—
I hear, I hear, with joy I hear!
—But there's a tree, of many, one,
A single field which I have look'd upon,
Both of them speak of something that is gone:
The pansy at my feet
Doth the same tale repeat:
Whither is fled the visionary gleam?
Where is it now, the glory and the dream?
(CONTINUED)
PART TWO:
Our birth is but a sleep and a forgetting:
The Soul that rises with us, our life's Star,
Hath had elsewhere its setting,
And cometh from afar:
Not in entire forgetfulness,
And not in utter nakedness,
But trailing clouds of glory do we come
From God, who is our home:
Heaven lies about us in our infancy!
Shades of the prison-house begin to close
Upon the growing Boy,
But he beholds the light, and whence it flows,
He sees it in his joy;
The Youth, who daily farther from the east
Must travel, still is Nature's priest,
And by the vision splendid
Is on his way attended;
At length the Man perceives it die away,
And fade into the light of common day.
Earth fills her lap with pleasures of her own;
Yearnings she hath in her own natural kind,
And, even with something of a mother's mind,
And no unworthy aim,
The homely nurse doth all she can
To make her foster-child, her Inmate Man,
Forget the glories he hath known,
And that imperial palace whence he came.
Behold the Child among his new-born blisses,
A six years' darling of a pigmy size!
See, where 'mid work of his own hand he lies,
Fretted by sallies of his mother's kisses,
With light upon him from his father's eyes!
See, at his feet, some little plan or chart,
Some fragment from his dream of human life,
Shaped by himself with newly-learnèd art;
A wedding or a festival,
A mourning or a funeral;
And this hath now his heart,
And unto this he frames his song:
Then will he fit his tongue
To dialogues of business, love, or strife;
But it will not be long
Ere this be thrown aside,
And with new joy and pride
The little actor cons another part;
Filling from time to time his 'humorous stage'
With all the Persons, down to palsied Age,
That Life brings with her in her equipage;
As if his whole vocation
Were endless imitation.
CONTINUED)
PART THREE:
Thou, whose exterior semblance doth belie
Thy soul's immensity;
Thou best philosopher, who yet dost keep
Thy heritage, thou eye among the blind,
That, deaf and silent, read'st the eternal deep,
Haunted for ever by the eternal mind,—
Mighty prophet! Seer blest!
On whom those truths do rest,
Which we are toiling all our lives to find,
In darkness lost, the darkness of the grave;
Thou, over whom thy Immortality
Broods like the Day, a master o'er a slave,
A presence which is not to be put by;
To whom the grave
Is but a lonely bed without the sense or sight
Of day or the warm light,
A place of thought where we in waiting lie;
Thou little Child, yet glorious in the might
Of heaven-born freedom on thy being's height,
Why with such earnest pains dost thou provoke
The years to bring the inevitable yoke,
Thus blindly with thy blessedness at strife?
Full soon thy soul shall have her earthly freight,
And custom lie upon thee with a weight,
Heavy as frost, and deep almost as life!
O joy! that in our embers
Is something that doth live,
That nature yet remembers
What was so fugitive!
The thought of our past years in me doth breed
Perpetual benediction: not indeed
For that which is most worthy to be blest—
Delight and liberty, the simple creed
Of childhood, whether busy or at rest,
With new-fledged hope still fluttering in his breast:—
Not for these I raise
The song of thanks and praise;
But for those obstinate questionings
Of sense and outward things,
Fallings from us, vanishings;
Blank misgivings of a Creature
Moving about in worlds not realized,
High instincts before which our mortal Nature
Did tremble like a guilty thing surprised:
But for those first affections,
Those shadowy recollections,
Which, be they what they may,
Are yet the fountain-light of all our day,
Are yet a master-light of all our seeing;
Uphold us, cherish, and have power to make
Our noisy years seem moments in the being
Of the eternal Silence: truths that wake,
To perish never:
Which neither listlessness, nor mad endeavour,
Nor Man nor Boy,
Nor all that is at enmity with joy,
Can utterly abolish or destroy!
Hence in a season of calm weather
Though inland far we be,
Our souls have sight of that immortal sea
Which brought us hither,
Can in a moment travel thither,
And see the children sport upon the shore,
And hear the mighty waters rolling evermore.
(CONTINUED)
PART FOUR:
Then sing, ye birds, sing, sing a joyous song!
And let the young lambs bound
As to the tabor's sound!
We in thought will join your throng,
Ye that pipe and ye that play,
Ye that through your hearts today
Feel the gladness of the May!
What though the radiance which was once so bright
Be now for ever taken from my sight,
Though nothing can bring back the hour
Of splendour in the grass, of glory in the flower;
We will grieve not, rather find
Strength in what remains behind;
In the primal sympathy
Which having been must ever be;
In the soothing thoughts that spring
Out of human suffering;
In the faith that looks through death,
In years that bring the philosophic mind.
And O ye Fountains, Meadows, Hills, and Groves,
Forebode not any severing of our loves!
Yet in my heart of hearts I feel your might;
I only have relinquish'd one delight
To live beneath your more habitual sway.
I love the brooks which down their channels fret,
Even more than when I tripp'd lightly as they;
The innocent brightness of a new-born Day
Is lovely yet;
The clouds that gather round the setting sun
Do take a sober colouring from an eye
That hath kept watch o'er man's mortality;
Another race hath been, and other palms are won.
Thanks to the human heart by which we live,
Thanks to its tenderness, its joys, and fears,
To me the meanest flower that blows can give
Thoughts that do often lie too deep for tears.
~ William Wordsworth. 1770–1850
Submitted (with emphasis added) by FreeThinke
Chuang Tzu in dream became a butterfly,
And the butterfly became Chuang Tzu at waking.
Which was the real—the butterfly or the man ?
Who can tell the end of the endless changes of things?
The water that flows into the depth of the distant sea
Returns in time to the shallows of a transparent stream.
The man, raising melons outside the green gate of the city,
Was once the Prince of the East Hill.
So must rank and riches vanish.
You know it, still you toil and toil—what for?
--- Li Po
Hey listen, 98JZUSMC, I despise Paul Krugman, but one hing he's not is fat -- nor is he ugly and stupid. He's just PERVERSE -- something all Marxian "thinkers" have in common. One can be smart, good-looking, tall, charismatic and demonically clever and still be wrong -- and vice versa.
OK, not so pleasantly plump.
Duck Paul, here come the aliens!
And Texas has poached the jobs from other states by pursuing policies that involve lax regulation, low wages, and worker penury, all while maintaining a workforce of minimal skills and education, it's all smoke and mirrors. It also explains their large budget deficit.
What. A. Phuqing. Lie.
Time for your 8:00PM feeding, zombie.
One thing the class may wish to consider is that Texas has very stiff mortgage regulations. These predate Perry by many years of course and he didn't tamper with them.
As a result a very mild housing bubble.
Now was the controlled housing costs a positive. No doubt but it had nothing to do with Perry.
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